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	<title>Comments on: Say Bye Bye To TBWA\C\D NY&#8217;s Creative Staff</title>
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	<description>lurking around the watercooler</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Granger Is Out Of The Rubber Room &#171; Agency Spy</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-11855</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Granger Is Out Of The Rubber Room &#171; Agency Spy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Granger at the agency until this November, a full year after his resignation. However, now that Gerry Graf of TBWA signed onto to replace Granger in February, it seems that Roberts is willing to let his grudge go. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Granger at the agency until this November, a full year after his resignation. However, now that Gerry Graf of TBWA signed onto to replace Granger in February, it seems that Roberts is willing to let his grudge go. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Feh</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10727</link>
		<dc:creator>Feh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if pumping up the creative in Y+R&#039;s NY office will help their shithole San Francisco office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if pumping up the creative in Y+R&#8217;s NY office will help their shithole San Francisco office.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip Torn</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10168</link>
		<dc:creator>Rip Torn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there will be SCAM stuff with Mr. Granger. How much longer will that be awarded / rewarded ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there will be SCAM stuff with Mr. Granger. How much longer will that be awarded / rewarded ?</p>
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		<title>By: required_name</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10160</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pharma is where old creatives go to die. 
at least that&#039;s how it was, how we all thought it was supposed to be. so you didn&#039;t manage to retire at 40, 45, 50 or 55, so you went onto a high-paying pharma account (every major agency has one), did some more or less okay to sucky tv and went home every evening stroke five. pharma is stable, pharma pays. it&#039;s a nice thank-you to the old burnt-out people who were second fiddle behind people like graf in their youth. 

but making the youngens do it? the ones who don&#039;t get paid duck shite anyway? that&#039;s just mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pharma is where old creatives go to die.<br />
at least that&#8217;s how it was, how we all thought it was supposed to be. so you didn&#8217;t manage to retire at 40, 45, 50 or 55, so you went onto a high-paying pharma account (every major agency has one), did some more or less okay to sucky tv and went home every evening stroke five. pharma is stable, pharma pays. it&#8217;s a nice thank-you to the old burnt-out people who were second fiddle behind people like graf in their youth. </p>
<p>but making the youngens do it? the ones who don&#8217;t get paid duck shite anyway? that&#8217;s just mean.</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is &#039;audience planning&#039;? Is it the same as &#039;connections planning&#039; and &#039;engagement planning&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8216;audience planning&#8217;? Is it the same as &#8216;connections planning&#8217; and &#8216;engagement planning&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10139</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please Ian and Scott - please don&#039;t make scam over there. Your talent is already well respected among your peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please Ian and Scott &#8211; please don&#8217;t make scam over there. Your talent is already well respected among your peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent X</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10138</link>
		<dc:creator>Agent X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they have some new thing called TBWA WorldHealth up there that&#039;s pulling in pharma accounts. Headed up by 2 guys from direct, an account guy and a creative. They get the non-star creatives from the regular agency to work on the pharma too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they have some new thing called TBWA WorldHealth up there that&#8217;s pulling in pharma accounts. Headed up by 2 guys from direct, an account guy and a creative. They get the non-star creatives from the regular agency to work on the pharma too.</p>
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		<title>By: required_name</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/say-bye-bye-to-tbwacd-nys-creative-staff/#comment-10126</link>
		<dc:creator>required_name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scott and ian were the only two people in the NY office allowed to do the great work. they had pretty much the rest of the agency there solely to do the shit that paid the bills and fired half of them recently. so hey, good riddance. I can&#039;t say the LA office treats their people that badly. 

anyone wanna take bets how long it will take for snickes and skittles to jump ship? I see a bunch of creative directors not taking summer holidays this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scott and ian were the only two people in the NY office allowed to do the great work. they had pretty much the rest of the agency there solely to do the shit that paid the bills and fired half of them recently. so hey, good riddance. I can&#8217;t say the LA office treats their people that badly. </p>
<p>anyone wanna take bets how long it will take for snickes and skittles to jump ship? I see a bunch of creative directors not taking summer holidays this year.</p>
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		<title>By: silly sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>silly sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s simple really.  TBWA/Chiat/Day NY and LA treat their people like shit.  Appreciate your peeps and they might just stick around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s simple really.  TBWA/Chiat/Day NY and LA treat their people like shit.  Appreciate your peeps and they might just stick around.</p>
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