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	<title>Comments on: Why Fallon Is In The Shitter (Hint: Meet The Buchner Boys)</title>
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		<title>By: UmberJamber</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-8767</link>
		<dc:creator>UmberJamber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be honest, aka Paul Silburn:

Yes, you got credit on Brawny. Here&#039;s your pat on the back.

ex-fallon person&#039;s point still stands. Bahamavention, Travelers, Holiday Inn all were done after you left and without Kerry. And while you may have been there when Brawny was a scribble on a napkin, the other 95% of the work happened after you were canned.

So, I guess, congrats for sort of selling one thing. If you could have sold anything else, you might still be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be honest, aka Paul Silburn:</p>
<p>Yes, you got credit on Brawny. Here&#8217;s your pat on the back.</p>
<p>ex-fallon person&#8217;s point still stands. Bahamavention, Travelers, Holiday Inn all were done after you left and without Kerry. And while you may have been there when Brawny was a scribble on a napkin, the other 95% of the work happened after you were canned.</p>
<p>So, I guess, congrats for sort of selling one thing. If you could have sold anything else, you might still be there.</p>
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		<title>By: Let's be Honest</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Let's be Honest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite true ex-Fallon person. I&#039;ve checked the awards credits for the Andy&#039;s, One Show, Cannes and D&amp;AD and the single biggest winning piece of work Fallon has done in the past 2 years is the Brawny Academy campaign - and that was created and overseen by Silburn and Mark Taylor right up until their departure when the production was then overseen by Roger Camp. All the creatives on that campaign were hired by Silburn too. For me this is not simply a debate about Fallon&#039;s creative ouput anyway. Look at the brilliant people in other departments who quit during 2006. The departures of the disillusioned didn&#039;t stop when the ship was supposed to be steadied - Brian DiLorenzo was awesome. So too were Magnus Blair, Michelle Fitzgerald, Lisa Seward, Roger Camp, Tim Gillingham, Adrain Ho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite true ex-Fallon person. I&#8217;ve checked the awards credits for the Andy&#8217;s, One Show, Cannes and D&amp;AD and the single biggest winning piece of work Fallon has done in the past 2 years is the Brawny Academy campaign &#8211; and that was created and overseen by Silburn and Mark Taylor right up until their departure when the production was then overseen by Roger Camp. All the creatives on that campaign were hired by Silburn too. For me this is not simply a debate about Fallon&#8217;s creative ouput anyway. Look at the brilliant people in other departments who quit during 2006. The departures of the disillusioned didn&#8217;t stop when the ship was supposed to be steadied &#8211; Brian DiLorenzo was awesome. So too were Magnus Blair, Michelle Fitzgerald, Lisa Seward, Roger Camp, Tim Gillingham, Adrain Ho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Fallon Speaks &#171; Agency Spy</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Fallon Speaks &#171; Agency Spy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More Fallon Coverage: Part One: Why Fallon Is In The Shitter   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Yet another ex-fallon person</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Yet another ex-fallon person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let&#039;s be Honest&quot; brings up some good points. Silburn did hire some great people and the politics at the place are crazy stupid. But he was not a good manager of people, no work was done while he was there, and both creatives and clients were fleeing like mad.

To even suggest Feuerman was remotely qualified for the job or could have suceeded without the politics is laughable. Either you didn&#039;t work there with him, or you are him, because everyone else could see he was a horrible judge of creative, not to mention an embarassing presenter and completely out of touch. He didn&#039;t know what a &quot;blog&quot; was. Honest.

Feuerman was a puppet, but mainly because he wasn&#039;t good enough to do his job. 

There&#039;s plenty of blame to go around. But the fact is, the agency was able to do good work with the group creative directors running the show, but not with Silburn or Feurman. 

Look at the good work that came out of that place last year. Nearly all of it happened between the SIlburn and Feuerman&#039;s reigns (check with the credits at Cannes...the only one Feuerman is on is Bahamavention, but everyone knows he wasn&#039;t allowed to touch that account).

Basically, Westbrook and the Buchners just need to stay out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s be Honest&#8221; brings up some good points. Silburn did hire some great people and the politics at the place are crazy stupid. But he was not a good manager of people, no work was done while he was there, and both creatives and clients were fleeing like mad.</p>
<p>To even suggest Feuerman was remotely qualified for the job or could have suceeded without the politics is laughable. Either you didn&#8217;t work there with him, or you are him, because everyone else could see he was a horrible judge of creative, not to mention an embarassing presenter and completely out of touch. He didn&#8217;t know what a &#8220;blog&#8221; was. Honest.</p>
<p>Feuerman was a puppet, but mainly because he wasn&#8217;t good enough to do his job. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s plenty of blame to go around. But the fact is, the agency was able to do good work with the group creative directors running the show, but not with Silburn or Feurman. </p>
<p>Look at the good work that came out of that place last year. Nearly all of it happened between the SIlburn and Feuerman&#8217;s reigns (check with the credits at Cannes&#8230;the only one Feuerman is on is Bahamavention, but everyone knows he wasn&#8217;t allowed to touch that account).</p>
<p>Basically, Westbrook and the Buchners just need to stay out of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Random</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your a fag. You have to much time on your hands to be making articles about complaints. Get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your a fag. You have to much time on your hands to be making articles about complaints. Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Let's be Honest</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Let's be Honest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on - Feurman and Silburn never stood a chance against the tidal wave of politics, resistance and head-in-the-sand-longing-for-the-good-old-days inner circle of Pat Fallon&#039;s cronies in creative, project management, account management, etc. To blame them is crazy - they were each there less than 1 year. In fact Silburn made some great hires - Roger Camp, Mark Taylor (who won a Titanium at Cannes again this year), The Wixom&#039;s (now at BBH NY), Brian Tierney and he even teed up Joel Rodriguez who soon realised his mistake. At least he was trying to inject some positivity and new blood into the failing, cancerous corpse. What changes were made elsewhere during that time? None because everyoine was covering their asses. And poor Kerry Feurman was just a puppet for Westbrook and Fallon. Don&#039;t blame him either. The Buchners and Pat deserve the lion&#039;s share of blame for sticking with a broken model for way too long. Now it&#039;s over. Sadly a once great agency will never recover under the new regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on &#8211; Feurman and Silburn never stood a chance against the tidal wave of politics, resistance and head-in-the-sand-longing-for-the-good-old-days inner circle of Pat Fallon&#8217;s cronies in creative, project management, account management, etc. To blame them is crazy &#8211; they were each there less than 1 year. In fact Silburn made some great hires &#8211; Roger Camp, Mark Taylor (who won a Titanium at Cannes again this year), The Wixom&#8217;s (now at BBH NY), Brian Tierney and he even teed up Joel Rodriguez who soon realised his mistake. At least he was trying to inject some positivity and new blood into the failing, cancerous corpse. What changes were made elsewhere during that time? None because everyoine was covering their asses. And poor Kerry Feurman was just a puppet for Westbrook and Fallon. Don&#8217;t blame him either. The Buchners and Pat deserve the lion&#8217;s share of blame for sticking with a broken model for way too long. Now it&#8217;s over. Sadly a once great agency will never recover under the new regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Fallon Update: Kerry Feuerman, Bill Westbrook And The Shitter &#171; Agency Spy</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallon Update: Kerry Feuerman, Bill Westbrook And The Shitter &#171; Agency Spy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is uninterested in trying to understand how the business has changed in the last 15 years (see the previous comment re: the interactive dept). It&#8217;s common knowledge at the agency that Pat&#8217;s inner circle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is uninterested in trying to understand how the business has changed in the last 15 years (see the previous comment re: the interactive dept). It&#8217;s common knowledge at the agency that Pat&#8217;s inner circle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Another Fallon Alum</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Fallon Alum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be a mistake to ignore the complete disintegration of Interactive, and the resulting loss of an incredibly powerful think-tank of creativity, when examining the state of that agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be a mistake to ignore the complete disintegration of Interactive, and the resulting loss of an incredibly powerful think-tank of creativity, when examining the state of that agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex-Fallonite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex-Fallonite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is total bullshit. How can the Buchner brothers be faulted for the downfall of Fallon&#039;s Creative offering when their advice on how to steer the agency has been largely ignored?

Your tipster left Fallon a long time ago. You think the Buchners were responsible for the hiring of both Paul Silburn and Kerry Feuerman? Think again. Having worked under both of them, I can tell you that these two extremely poor choices for Lubars-successors is the most significant factor in the downfall of Fallon&#039;s creative offering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is total bullshit. How can the Buchner brothers be faulted for the downfall of Fallon&#8217;s Creative offering when their advice on how to steer the agency has been largely ignored?</p>
<p>Your tipster left Fallon a long time ago. You think the Buchners were responsible for the hiring of both Paul Silburn and Kerry Feuerman? Think again. Having worked under both of them, I can tell you that these two extremely poor choices for Lubars-successors is the most significant factor in the downfall of Fallon&#8217;s creative offering.</p>
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		<title>By: Part Deux: Why Fallon Is In The Shitter &#171; Agency Spy</title>
		<link>http://agencyspy.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/why-fallon-is-in-the-shitter-hint-its-the-buchner-boys/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>Part Deux: Why Fallon Is In The Shitter &#171; Agency Spy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part One: Why Fallon Is In The Shitter     Posted by superspy Filed in [...]</description>
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